Agenda and minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee - Tuesday, 28th February, 2023 10.30 am

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Appointment of Chair

To appoint a Chair for the duration of the meeting.


It was MOVED by Councillor Margaret Bird and SECONDED by Councillor Christopher Herman and RESOLVED, to:


Appoint Councillor Karen Jewitt as Chair for the meeting.



Disclosure of Interests

Members are invited to declare any disclosable pecuniary interests (DPIs) and other registrable and non-registrable interests they may have in relation to any item(s) of business on today’s agenda.


Councillor Karen Jewitt noted that she was a ward Councillor for Thornton Heath but had no previous involvement in the application.



Urgent Business (if any)

To receive notice of any business not on the agenda which in the opinion of the Chair, by reason of special circumstances, be considered as a matter of urgency.



There were no items of urgent business.



Licensing Act 2003 - Application for a premises licence at 61 High Street, Thornton Heath, CR7 8RY pdf icon PDF 106 KB

The Sub-Committee is asked to determine whether to grant the application for a premises licence at 61 High Street, Thornton Heath, CR7 8RY.

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The Chair outlined the procedures for the licensing hearing in line with the Licensing Act 2003 and introduced the applicant, the applicant’s agent and the objector to the meeting.


The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing described the types of licensable activity that could be applied for and introduced the nature of the License Application as described in Appendix A, paragraph 1.2. They advised the sub-committee that following conversations with the police licensing officer and council noise pollution team, the closing hours presently requested were a reduction to those submitted in the original application. In addition, a list of conditions detailed in Appendix A2 had been accepted by the applicant were the license to be granted.

The Chair invited the objector to speak who informed the sub-committee:


·       The area was quiet, residential and densely populated.

·       The premises did not have a car parking facility.

·       A late-night venue would create noise, increase traffic and parking difficulty in the vicinity.

·       They were relieved to see door staff in place for CPFC home fixture days and the conditions regarding closure of doors, windows and the installation of a noise regulator.

·       There had been a loss of venues in the area and the development of the site was welcomed, however they felt the opportunity to create a family friendly venue had been missed.

The applicant was then offered the opportunity to speak, on behalf of the applicant their representative Robert Sutherland advised the sub-committee:


·       The premises intended to be a family friendly venue, utilised by the local community.

·       Several conditions to ensure no nuisance to residents had been agreed in conjunction with the police and council noise nuisance team.

·       Regarding parking, online publicity material would encourage attendance by taxi or public transport and the night bus provision, nearby mini cab office and availability of Uber in the area was noted

The sub-committee queried the inclusion and observation of condition 33 in relation to the management responsibility and any involvement in the business by the previous owner of Oceanic Bar. The applicant’s representative advised this had been agreed with the police in relation to their concerns and confirmed the applicant was solely responsible for management of the premises. The applicant advised the police would be contacted if the individual attended the premises. 


In response to questions the applicant’s representative advised:


·       The double fronted outside areas would be maintained for cleanliness during the day and at close of business.

·       Weekends would have both CCTV and door supervision to minimise noise nuisance and restrict numbers of smokers outside.

·       The use of plastics had been discussed with police in relation to the reduction of crime and disorder and drinks would be prevented outside from 11pm.

·       There would be further discussion with the police regarding the allocation of the venue to home or away fans on CPFC home match days and security provision would be in place.

The sub-committee queried limiting smokers outside to a maximum of 10.  Officers advised smoking was not a licensable activity  ...  view the full minutes text for item 31/22