Agenda and minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee - Tuesday, 21st May, 2024 10.30 am

Venue: This meeting will be held remotely. View directions

Contact: Hannah Cretney, Democratic Services Officer  Email: hannah.cretney2@croydon.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

12/24

Appointment of Chair

To appoint a Chair for the duration of the meeting.

Minutes:

It was MOVED by Councillor Bird and SECONDED by Councillor Denton and RESOLVED to appoint Councillor Patsy Cummings as Chair of the meeting.

 

13/24

Disclosure of Interests

Members are invited to declare any disclosable pecuniary interests (DPIs) and other registrable and non-registrable interests they may have in relation to any item(s) of business on today’s agenda.

Minutes:

Councillor Patsy Cummings informed the Sub Committee that she received an email from an objector prior to the meeting, she shared the email with licensing team straight away. The licensing team had reached out to the objector but had not received a response. Councillor Cummings did check with legal officers whether it was appropriate for her to Chair the meeting and she had been informed that there was not an issue.

 

14/24

Urgent Business (if any)

To receive notice of any business not on the agenda which in the opinion of the Chair, by reason of special circumstances, be considered as a matter of urgency.

 

Minutes:

There were no items of urgent business.

 

15/24

Licensing Act 2003 - Application For a Premises Licence at Norbury Park, Norbury, SW16 3LY pdf icon PDF 106 KB

The Sub-Committee is asked to determine whether to grant the application for a (time limited) premises licence at Norbury Park, Norbury, SW16 3LY.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Chair outlined the procedures for the Licensing Hearing in line with the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s protocol.

 

The applicant, Josephine Williams-Brown was present.

 

Parties who had submitted representations Lisa Patient and Jenni Rodgers were also present.

 

The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing introduced the application to the Sub Committee and explained that the application sought the sale by retail of alcohol for consumption on the premises, from 12pm-9pm and the provision of regulated entertainment including recorded and live music from 12pm-9pm on Saturday 3 and Sunday 4 August 2024 and this was a time limited premises licence. The applicant had also attached a copy of their event management plan to their application, this was an evolving document and it was the latest version of the document at the time of the Licensing Sub Committee hearing. Following discussions with the police licensing officer the applicant had agreed to make amendments to their application.

 

The first objecting party was given the opportunity to speak. Lisa Patient and Jenni Rodgers advised:

 

  • The event was a nuisance for residents.
  • They were unsure on whether any checks had been conducted on the plans that the organiser had planned to implement. They wanted assurance that there would be somebody monitoring whether the organiser delivered on their plans for the event, specifically plans regarding the health and safety of attendees of the event and residents.
  •  There had been inadequate supervision in previous years, particularly in the setting up phase of the event.
  • Last year there had been huge lorries carrying equipment which arrived at 2am to set up the event and disturbed residents.
  • There was no signage to direct people who were setting up the event and it was down to volunteers from the Friends of Norbury Park to help manage the situation.
  • The clearing up after last year’s event was inadequate.
  • Many people could not afford the entrance fee so people would sit around the barriers and so the number of people sitting and drinking in the park was significantly larger than the capacity of the event.
  • The sound level was not monitored, and the decibel level creeps up during the evening which was a nuisance to residents.
  • There would often be people in the park after the event playing music and disturbing residents.
  • The large vehicles carrying equipment to set up the event damaged the cricket pitch which cost a lot of money to be installed and maintained, and residents believed they should receive some compensation for the huge amount of work needed to be done afterwards.
  • There was a lot of aggression from drivers who were trying to park at the event and they may need some cones from the Council to show drivers where they could and couldn’t park.
  • There would need to be an officer from the Council present throughout the event to keep the music at the agreed decibel level.

 

The applicant Josephine Williams-Brown was given the opportunity to speak and advised:

 

16/24

Licensing Act 2003 - Application For a Premises Licence at Addington Park, Croydon, CR0 5AR pdf icon PDF 106 KB

The Sub-Committee is asked to determine whether to grant the application for a premises licence at Addington Park, Croydon, CR0 5AR.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Chair outlined the procedures for the Licensing Hearing in line with the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s protocol.

 

The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing explained the time limited nature of the licensing application for Addington Park on Saturday 27 and Sunday 28 July. The application sought the provision of regulated entertainment and live music from 6pm – 9pm, recorded music from 1pm – 10pm, the sale by retail of alcohol for consumption on the premises on Saturday 27 and Sunday 28 July from 1pm – 9.30pm. The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing informed the Sub Committee that following discussions with the police, the applicant had amended their application to have the conditions at appendix A2 placed on the licence if it was granted.

 

The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing informed the Sub Committee that the representations received on the application could be found at appendix A3 and the applicant had been provided with a written copy on the representations made. The Head of Environmental Health, Trading Standards and Licensing also noted that appendix A4 was an ordinance survey extract which showed the location of the venue.

 

The objecting party Charles Marriott was given the opportunity to speak. They thanked the Sub-Committee for the opportunity to object to the proposals and advised:

 

  • Residents were very familiar with the applicant and have had in person discussions with them regarding their events.
  • As the applicant had applied for a licence for an event which would host considerably more attendees than in previous years, the police presence and the safety and security on and off site was of deep concern to the residents.
  • Charles Marriott and Councillor Robert Ward had submitted concerns over the instance on individuals trying to park, despite the applicant trying to encourage visitors not to drive to the event.
  • Attendees who attempted to park on residential roads close to Addington Park in the past had exhibited aggressive and threatening behaviour towards residents. This issue would be exacerbated further at this year’s event as there would be more people attending the event.
  • There were no proportions on the ordinance survey map at appendix A4.
  • There was greater concern for the potential issues which may occur off site than on site.

 

The objecting party Councillor Robert Ward was given the opportunity to speak. They thanked the Sub-Committee for the opportunity to object to the proposals and advised:

 

  • Councillor Ward had submitted a lessons learned document from previous events which had been submitted as part of his representations.
  • The applicant had previously ran events in the park and had conducted themselves professionally.
  • Whilst the event proposed in the application would be larger than previous events, it would be ran in a similar manner.
  • The issue which would have the largest impact on residents would be the aggression from attendees trying to park close to the park. However, appropriate security arrangements had been put in place recently to help manage the situation.
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17/24

Exclusion of the Press and Public

The following motion is to be moved and seconded where it is proposed to exclude the press and public from the remainder of a meeting:

 

“That, under Section 100A(4) of the Local Government Act, 1972, the press and public be excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the grounds that it involves the likely disclosure of exempt information falling within those paragraphs indicated in Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972, as amended.”

 

Minutes:

This was not required.