The Acting Head of Pensions and
Treasury introduced the item and explained that the LCIV provided
the Council with a savings report every year. The report stated
that the London CIV had saved the Fund £564,000 in 2022/23.
These savings were in relation to the standard rate charges that
investment managers would charge and officers would normally be
able to negotiate a discount so the figures quoted in the report
were treated with some scepticism.
The Acting Head
of Pensions and Treasury informed the Committee that around 50% of
the funds assets were invested with the London CIV and over the
coming years officers would seek to move more of their listed
assets into the London CIV.
In response to
questions from members officers informed the Committee
that:
- For
the assets that officer had proposed to move into the CIV, officers
could provide Members with the fees that are currently being paid
to the fund managers and the fees that will be saved by investing
with the CIV. Any comparison would be difficult however as
transfers would not normally be exactly
like-for-like.
- In the
Chancellors Mansion House speech in July, he championed the pooling
of assets, and they were looking to mandate funds to pool more of
their assets by March 2025.
- There
was a consultation being conducted and the CIV was planning to
issue a reply to the statement. The CIV’s response explained
that believed it was not appropriate to force Funds and set
deadlines.
- The
Fund was aligned with the proposals already as it had invested 10%
into private equity and 5% into levelling up assets but officers
were not comfortable with this being mandatory.
- Mercer
had released a briefing note online which detailed their response
to the speech. Mercer’s response did not state whether
pooling was right but rather what factors would need to be
considered if there was more pooling introduced.
- There
was a range in the amount that other boroughs had invested with the
CIV. Croydon Council was roughly in the middle in terms of the
amount invested in the CIV.
- Officers would have to conduct Task Force on Climate-Related
Financial Disclosures (TFCD), the CIV would provide a service in
which they would analyse the funds listed assets and provide the
fund with a starting position.
- TFCD
reporting will probably be implemented in 2025 for LGPS
Funds.
- There
were 86 LGPS funds in England & Wales and the size of the pools
was proposed to be around £50 billion, but there was no
consensus on what the optimum size a pool should be. If investment
returns were not met from the pooled investments, then it was down
to employers within the fund to make up the difference. If the
investment returns fell, then the contributions would need to be
increased. This was a potential issue with mandatory pooling as the
Council would have to come up with a solution if investment returns
were short.
- If the
other employers in the Fund experienced serious financial
difficulty and ceased, then their liabilities fall on the other
employers Fund of which the Council is by far the largest. If there
is a shortfall to the Fund then it could mean increased
contributions from employers.
- The
way the questions are phrased in the consultation document made it
difficult for officers to provide their opinion
clearly.
The Committee
asked the Acting Head of Pensions and Treasury to decide whether or
not to reply to the Consultation on their behalf and to express
their concerns with the proposals being too prescriptive regarding
pooling. The response to the Consultation would have to be issued
by the 2nd October.
Resolved:
1.1
To note the contents of this report.
1.2
To ask the Acting Head of Pensions and Treasury to
look at the question’s in the consultation and to decide
whether it was in the Councils best interest to issue a
response.